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Re: RFD: rec.arts.movies.erotica moderated



In article <[email protected]>,
	Christopher B. Stone <[email protected]> wrote:

>I do agree 
>that the group ought to be rec.arts.erotica.movies.
>[...]
>It is exceedingly irresponsible to argue one *must* have 
>the name "foo.bat.bar" rather than "for.bar.bat," because the latter is 
>much more likely to be dropped.

OK, let's look at other reasons...

>Like I said, I was not planning to vote either way on this proposal.  But 
>if you can't offer any better reason for ignoring the rec.arts.erotica.* 
>hierarchy, then I may cast a "NO" ballot.

Then you are casting a "NO" vote based on (at best) misinformation or
(at worst) a prejudiced and deliberate disregard of the facts.

Calling rec.arts.erotica.* a hierarchy is a lie. Rec.arts.erotica
is a newsgroup, (I know, I created it). It was not designed to be a
hierarchy, was never proposed as such in its charter, was not voted in
as such, and had no short-term or long-term intentions to do so.

The current charter of r.a.e describes it as being only for the
distribution of *original* erotic works; no discission at all. While
it might be appropriate to have a sub-group 'erotica.movies' if lots
of people submitted screenplays, this has not been the case in the
past, and is not the intended goal of the r.a.m.e proponents. Based
on existing charters, rec.arts.erotica.movies is the wrong place.

Also: It is bad Usenet practise to have a name that is both a newsgroup
and a base for a hierarchy -- this is indeed a royal pain for
administrators. You cannot have *both* rec.arts.erotica and
rec.arts.erotica.movies; the former would have to be renamed r.a.e.misc.
Failure to do so would result in the proposal being rejected by
tale & co; it would never get to a CFV.

On the other hand, there is no newsgroup called rec.arts.movies; it is
*designed* as a hierarchy. In standard Usenet form, it contains a .misc
group, a moderated .announce group, and various other groups added as
necessary.

In other words, if one looks at precedent and Usenet procedure, there is
*no* grounds upon which to form rec.arts.erotica.movies, and plenty for
rec.arts.movies.erotica.

>I should also mention that as things stand, there are far too many 
>newsgroups in rec.arts.movies.*.

Oh please. Too many? There are a great many hierarchies with a damn
sight more branches than rec.arts.movies, and there's no confusion at
all about them. When there's something that's relevant across more than
one specific group, we have this little feature here on Usenet called
cross-posting; used appropriately and in moderation, it's very useful.

>People are confused about where to 
>post, even with seemingly obvious names like 
>rec.arts.movies.current-films.

"People" are not confused at all. Unless you speak for some larger group
or have statistics, all you describe is your own confusion.

Further, we are not here to debate the appropriateness of existing movies
newsgroups; if there is something confusing about the name 'movies.erotica',
then say so, specifically. If not, you have no grounds for rejection.

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